Dodging the corporate tax dodgers

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Dodging the corporate tax dodgers

Postby Ireneb » Fri May 17, 2013 6:27 am

Am getting pretty fed up hearing how both Google and Amazon (and plenty others, like Starbucks) are ducking out from paying corporate taxes in the UK. I can avoid Amazon by using local bookshop and buy coffee at a local independent.

Search engines are a bit harder, but am avoiding Google now by using DuckDuckGo, a search engine that doesn't track users and do strange things with its privacy policy.

Does anyone else have any good tips for not handing over our data and money to companies who won't do their share to keep society up and running?
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Re: Dodging the corporate tax dodgers

Postby Janey » Fri May 17, 2013 8:36 am

Sorry. It's the American way. :( The problem is, these companies are so huge, with so many heads and so many tentacles, it is almost impossible to boycott them meaningfully. I saw a documentary that said if corporations paid only a few percent more in taxes, our public education system would be the envy of the world, we'd have all the services we need, and we could fix our infrastructure. Not to mention, invest in innovation.

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Re: Dodging the corporate tax dodgers

Postby jim » Tue Jul 23, 2013 4:35 pm

Janey wrote:Sorry. It's the American way. :( The problem is, these companies are so huge, with so many heads and so many tentacles, it is almost impossible to boycott them meaningfully. I saw a documentary that said if corporations paid only a few percent more in taxes, our public education system would be the envy of the world, we'd have all the services we need, and we could fix our infrastructure. Not to mention, invest in innovation.

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Or a good socialist president. Oh, we already have that, don't we?

HAHAHAHAHA... as if. FUcking Republicans.
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Re: Dodging the corporate tax dodgers

Postby neko2 » Tue Jul 23, 2013 7:11 pm

I was just thinking about how people don't want to pay taxes but want good roads, firefighters, cops, etc. It just doesn't make sense. To have a good infrastructure we have to pay taxes to maintain it. Also not screwing the government with low bids then adding outrageous add ons will make things better too. They forget screwing the government is like screwing yourself.

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Re: Dodging the corporate tax dodgers

Postby shaza » Sat Sep 14, 2013 12:41 am

neko2 wrote:I was just thinking about how people don't want to pay taxes but want good roads, firefighters, cops, etc. It just doesn't make sense. To have a good infrastructure we have to pay taxes to maintain it. Also not screwing the government with low bids then adding outrageous add ons will make things better too. They forget screwing the government is like screwing yourself.


Too true - I feel like Goldilocks sometimes:

in the US all my family complain about the taxes there - but I tell them it's much much higher in Europe. And in the US - some places do have good roads, schools, etc. - but many many places do not and certainly there is no proper universal healthcare available.

In the UK we pay higher tax than in the US, but I sometimes seriously do wonder where that money is going because the roads are in a dreadful state, "public" transport was sold off to private firms so now it's expensive but unreliable. etc etc We do have the National Health Service - but opinions vary on the service - personally I've been happy but thankfully I'm mostly healthy and don't have to use it much on balance and my GP is good and approachable.

In Germany taxes are high and we really used to complain about it, but I have to say in hindsight, roads, public transport and healthcare are excellent. I never had anything to do with the schools except through a friend with a daughter at school - and my only complaint is that their school system tends to be very elitist. There are 3 tracks for secondary school with the top being University prep - you are more or less picked by your teachers at about age 10 as to whether you are suitable for that track and then you are set. The other two tracks - these kids have considerably less opportunities later in life if you ask me.

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Re: Dodging the corporate tax dodgers

Postby Mao Mao » Sun Sep 15, 2013 12:50 pm

jim wrote:
Or a good socialist president. Oh, we already have that, don't we?

HAHAHAHAHA... as if. FUcking Republicans.


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Re: Dodging the corporate tax dodgers

Postby neko2 » Sun Sep 15, 2013 7:07 pm

Older countries have higher taxes and tax everything! I try to explain to my fellow country when they complain but it falls on deaf ears. Too many are thinking for the short term. I prefer educated docs, etc.
The roads were nice in Germany. I have no idea how the school system worked though an old beau explained the European system.
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